Alexander Pedersen
A Knight 1185-1201
perhaps with "Richard the Lionheart" on
the Third Crusade 1191-1192
b. (unknown but probably before 1165 Borup, Sjaelland,
Denmark
d. after 1221
Glob / Due
Children with Magrete |
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Niels
Alexandersen Falster Royal Mayor |
abt 1180 |
d. after 1268 |
m. unknown |
Absalon Alexandersen Rød |
b. | d. |
m. unknown |
Gunhild Alexandersdatter |
b. |
d. |
m. Tyge Pust * "Kammermester" Chamber Master or Ducal Treasurer Attended the murder of Erik Plovpenning He gave Luserød to Sorø Kloster or Sorø Abbey Had been the home base of Saxo Grammaticus, the writer. |
*family
according to Roskilde History website.
# records of Gunther Kipp on geni.com
#This royal connection is not confirmed by Saxo Grammaticus used
on Roskilde.
The family developed
is based on the the genealogy of the Roskilde Cathedral,
Roskilde, Denmark. This cathedral is one of the oldest in
Denmark and is the burial place of the largest number of king,
queens and other nobility in all of Europe including Harold
Bluetooth, one of the greatest kings of Denmark.
The records from the
Roskilde web site for Alexander Pedersen caused me a number of
questions. Records for this era are rare and sometimes are
incomplete. It seems well defined that Alexander was
knighted and did go on a crusade. His wife's family name
is still subject to speculation although even Roskilde thinks
there may be a royal connection. Margarete is known but
her origin is not identified. Researchers are using
diverse historical documents, proximity and circumstances to put
together a better picture. I believe there is a good case for
Margarete to be the daughter of Valdemar "The Great", King of
Denmark. Some of this argument looks at who might be illegible
to marry of a similar social status and economic standard. Since
Alexander Pedersen also comes from one of the wealthiest
families in Denmark, who are also full of religious zeal
to promote Catholicism through out the region; it also put
another brick in the mortar that holds the power together.
Marriage were frequently used to seal alliances between
countries and within the country.
Crusader
1191-1192
It states that he was a Rider or "knight" from 1185 to
1201. He went on "The Crusades" in 1191 to
1192. [Roskilde History]
There were two "Danish Crusades" and both crusades in 1191 and
1202 were to Finland, "the later one was led by Bishop of Lund
Anders Sunesen with his brother." [wikipedia] These crusades
like the ones in the middle-east used forced conversions from
paganism to Christianity.
Valdemar
the Great is said to have lead a group of crusaders who put
the town of Arkona on the Baltic Sea under siege to prevent
their raiding of the Danish coast. They were conquered it in
1168 and became Christian subjects of Denmark. This
would lead to an interesting connection to Alexander's wife,
Margrete, the possible daughter of Valdemar.
This Margrete should not be confused with "Margaret I", the youngest daughter of Valdemar IV, King of Denmark. She is also known as Margarete Valdemarsdatter (b. 1353-1412) and is buried in Roskilde Cathedral.
#Margarete as Valdemarsdottir in the family is listed as a
"nun in Roskilde" in Roskilde web site and wikipedia.
There is no known record for the connection I have listed for
her marriage to Alexander Pedersen other than
circumstantial. Even though Margarete is listed by
Roskilde as "a nun" this does not preclude her to have been
married with family. Many young girls may have
been forced into nunnery by pregnancy out of wedlock. With
Valdemar's own history I doubt this would be the case.
Although I don't have any specific dates to confirm this, it is
possible that Margarete my have gone to a "nunnery" after
raising her family. This actually is a tradition still
found in Buddhism in Nepal. Frequently widows who have
raised their families enter the Buddhist convents for support
and to carry out the religious principles of faith and
sharing. I'm still in the process of finding out what may
have transpired and look forward to anyone who may have some
ideas or confirmation.
I'm still trying grasp what may have happened to her. Margarete
Valdemarsdottir would have been only seven years old at the
death of her father. This would mean she was raised by her
mother, Sophia, and other court attendants. Sophia was a
powerful person in her own right. She apparently establish
Kobenhavn as a major port. She saw to it that her children
married into some of the most prominent noble families of
Europe. This might also have been a reason that, according
to the Roskilde records, two of the daughters became nuns.
They may have seen what happen when the children were shipped
out to other countries. While Sophia was alive there would
have been little ability to go against her wishes.
Margarete would have been 23 years old at the death of her
mother, even as being a nun. This would not be too late to
start a family. Margarete's first child is said in this
record to be born when she is five, so something is wrong
here.
"... Viking society is hardly a paradise for women --- polygymy does exist among the wealthier men, women are perpetually under the thumb of husband or father, but Viking women have a certain measure of protection in a society that values family ties above all else. An offense against a woman is likely to be avenged in blood by her relatives.
In Viking society, a woman's parents find her a husband, who usually pays for the privilege of marrying her; the prospective bride may reject her parents' candidate, but she may not find one of her own. If she does marry against the will of her family, her husband becomes an outlaw, subject to execution by the woman's relatives. A Viking man may divorce his wife at any time, but if he does so without good cause, he is likely to be killed by her family. Women's opinions are often valued, and they are not secluded in women's quarters within the house. A woman is entitled to one-third of her husband's belongings and to one-half of them after twenty years of marriage. "
[Olsen, Kirstin. Chronology of the History of Women. p.37]
The Third Crusade
(1189-1192) is probably the one in which Alexander Pedersen
could have been in according to the dates. Apparently he
is one of 15 Danes that signed up to be lead by King Richard I
of England, known as "Richard the Lionheart". Richard leads a
contingent along with the Holy Roman Emperor Frederick
Barbarossa. Barbarossa dies and his German troops go home.
Richard continues on to the Holy Land where he eventually makes
a treaty with the great Muslim leader Sultan Saladin on 2
September 1192. Richard leaves the Holy Lands on October
9th, 1192 [Third Crusade - wikipedia.org]
The officially recognized dates for the crusades begins with Pope Urban II who didn't call for the First Crusade until 1095. [crusades - wikipedia.org]
These families have
records and the family crests are found in the Roskilde
Cathedral web site and go back to about 1100.
See more photos here of
Roskilde.
Source:
Elroy's Brief Jutland History || Elroy's Family Index || Ancestor.chart 92690
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